Presented for discussion: New ApoBetrO
The new version of ApoBetrO is in store!
decision bases, while constituting the currently existing ApoG;
but politics is fickle, as the AMNOG has shown;
as well as the subsidiary nation-state sovereignty, the rating on foreign operations and multiple ownership is not the same judge for all eternity.
Ahead of the opinion that expectations for the further development of the pharmacists' professional status are quite different and even contradictory.
The ownership of the pharmacy manager
click here (PZ)
Illegal outsourcing pharmacy services provider
click here (PZ)
Freier Heilberufler anstelle staatlicher Gängelung
klicken Sie hier (PZ)
(Dr. Klaus Michels , LAV-WL)
Kaufmann oder Heilberufler ?
klicken Sie hier (PZ)
(Friedemann Schmidt , ABDA-Vize)
Qualität zeigt sich an Leistungen, die über den Standard hinausgehen !
klicken Sie hier (PZ)
(Erika Fink , BAK-Präsidentin)
" PZ: Was müssen Ihrer Meinung nach die Apotheker in der Offizin anders machen als bisher?
FINK: Die Medien kritisieren usually the quality of advice. We are a pharmacist trained technically very good.
for errors in the advice it must therefore be other reasons than professional competence.
PZ: What?
FINK: I think the counseling techniques are the weak point. Pharmacists learn nothing about their training in communication. They would, however, because it is extremely difficult to advise a stranger to well over a possibly sensitive health topic. We have not learned a pharmacist.
PZ: tell you that bad advice is more likely a result of faulty communication than lack of expertise.
Should not then the chambers, and possibly the organizations to rethink their training opportunities?
FINK: Which is true. We also have sessions on communication.
you are still not accepted as good "
my question about the last quote, phrase.?
Why is not What's
at about MASLOW + Pavlov in (change unwilling / unable) Pharmacists eK / OHG
? GLOSS: Are
"crab lice" ( reader comment in Guttenberg DAZ article ) afterwards smarter ( Mendelsohn DAZ article )
asks
Winfried Meyer ( Vita )
Tuesday, March 1, 2011
Sunday, February 27, 2011
Chronotherm Iv Plus Span
Inglourius Bastard
climbs Since then the moral issue is a credibility debate on the question whether a man ExDR. KTzG has now acted in more or less conscious intention to deceive or not. And lo and behold: once again the only way a conservative delinquent by vehement imply a choice alternative to fumble his head out of the loop. Or less cryptically
Dear too stupid as a criminal because of the stupid who Doktorn is, can still remain Minister ( says Angie ) . As far as the general discussion as a success of this strategy is worth, because no one believes because he eigendlich consists curiously not serious about the disastrous moral consequences of this statement apart.
developed Seen in the light finally just the principle of presumption of innocence most politically explosive. must in fact be only ausgegengen them to all that this effective recycling of 50-95% vol no malice is based - on the contrary: Every programmer knows the value of reusable code . The fact that licenses were injured (to stay in the picture), it may safely be considered generous, because it is not really the problem.
weighs much more difficult for someone who is apparently already while writing this work as a person part of public life, was the question of responsibility . "Gross technical mistakes" are in the trade as "gross negligence" . But even if this were not a moral flaw, as long as he risked his own only reputation and title. But it is by no means: Who in this public situation grossly negligent act (ie an unnecessary risk tacitly accepted in taking ) also compromised the reputation of his supervisor's and his university. As a public person or damaging their reputation and resources of his office and his party and its allies added. Last but not least obstructs this continued Taktiererei the effective governance and ultimately harms all citizens and democracy in general.
who grew up in a time when the political leaders for 16 years her personal "honor" above their oath of office could be, used to a certain degree of criminal intent in the political staff. Of course it is outrageous and so on, but on the other hand, such people are at least reasonably predictable. But if someone sebst seemingly be too stupid to look over the fatal consequences of his negligence driven by vanity, it must possible by a government responsibility be quickly removed.
The real scandal is but the fact that he manages just over this fatal presumption of innocence, the responsibility to withdraw . Without the title it could in principle even try again to write a thesis! Much better was the only assessment of his work would have to cancel, and require him to drive his title to - but with the addition "plagiatus causa :
Dr. (pc) K.-T. Guttenberg
This would be done but the burden of proof is sufficient. The copies sold would of course be provided as part of a recall is in compliance with stickers ...
climbs Since then the moral issue is a credibility debate on the question whether a man ExDR. KTzG has now acted in more or less conscious intention to deceive or not. And lo and behold: once again the only way a conservative delinquent by vehement imply a choice alternative to fumble his head out of the loop. Or less cryptically
Dear too stupid as a criminal because of the stupid who Doktorn is, can still remain Minister ( says Angie ) . As far as the general discussion as a success of this strategy is worth, because no one believes because he eigendlich consists curiously not serious about the disastrous moral consequences of this statement apart.
developed Seen in the light finally just the principle of presumption of innocence most politically explosive. must in fact be only ausgegengen them to all that this effective recycling of 50-95% vol no malice is based - on the contrary: Every programmer knows the value of reusable code . The fact that licenses were injured (to stay in the picture), it may safely be considered generous, because it is not really the problem.
weighs much more difficult for someone who is apparently already while writing this work as a person part of public life, was the question of responsibility . "Gross technical mistakes" are in the trade as "gross negligence" . But even if this were not a moral flaw, as long as he risked his own only reputation and title. But it is by no means: Who in this public situation grossly negligent act (ie an unnecessary risk tacitly accepted in taking ) also compromised the reputation of his supervisor's and his university. As a public person or damaging their reputation and resources of his office and his party and its allies added. Last but not least obstructs this continued Taktiererei the effective governance and ultimately harms all citizens and democracy in general.
who grew up in a time when the political leaders for 16 years her personal "honor" above their oath of office could be, used to a certain degree of criminal intent in the political staff. Of course it is outrageous and so on, but on the other hand, such people are at least reasonably predictable. But if someone sebst seemingly be too stupid to look over the fatal consequences of his negligence driven by vanity, it must possible by a government responsibility be quickly removed.
The real scandal is but the fact that he manages just over this fatal presumption of innocence, the responsibility to withdraw . Without the title it could in principle even try again to write a thesis! Much better was the only assessment of his work would have to cancel, and require him to drive his title to - but with the addition "plagiatus causa :
Dr. (pc) K.-T. Guttenberg
This would be done but the burden of proof is sufficient. The copies sold would of course be provided as part of a recall is in compliance with stickers ...
Tuesday, February 1, 2011
Iron Anemia Cause Broken Capillaries
CONSEQUENCES instead whining
from DAZ.online of 31.01.2001
one commentator wrote there:
"Where are the consequences?"
I ask: What kind of consequences
should / could be that given the current with pharmaceutical industry and medical profession (in the self-understanding) and DAV matted ABDA be?
for example HSKeller `s credo
" It is the pharmacists can not be expected, the interests of the pharmaceutical industry to affect "
As a freelance corrective in health care according to § 1 ApoG like these gentlemen, especially evident nicht vorwagen, weder mit kammergerichtlichen Instrumentarien noch mit konsequentem unternehmerischen ENTZUG des DAV-Logos gegenüber Ausreissern in ethische Nebelwände.
Welche nachhaltigen Konsequenzen nach INNEN für die derzeitigen "Delegierten", die nach außen als "Verhandler" und "Medienexperten" sich zunächst mal KOMMUNIKATIONS-Kompetenz aneignen müssten aber eben nicht wollen in ihrer teamunfähigen weil bequemen vereinsmeierischen Patronatsdenke ?
Notwendig ist m.E. zunächst ein Wandel von landeshoheitlicher zu bundeshoheitlicher Struktur der Berufsvertretung, unter Einschluss ALLER Verbände (sogar konträrer Richtungen) in ein apothekerliches Bundesparlament aus ausschließlich von 55.000 Apothekern DIREKTGEWÄHLTEN Mandatsträgern statt Listen-Delegierten.
Nebeneffekt : Bürokratie- + Kostenabbau im eigenen A-Polit-Haus auf Landesebenen... in Vorbildfunktion für die "große Politik" , umgesetzt mit der Multiplikatorwirkung der apothekerlichen flächendeckenden FACHeinzelhandelsgeschäfte.
Und die ABDA-Führer sollten jetzt nicht posaunen, die Landesparteipolitiker würden dem abgeneigt sein bzw. zu verhindern wissen.
Letzteres wäre nicht die erste historische Fehleinschätzung der derzeitigen Apotheker-"Führungsriege"
Erst eine wirklich mehrheitsfähige und damit von den Parteipolit-Entscheidern ernstzunehmende Berufsvertretung kann dann ihre ureigensten Berufsbild-Interessen auch gegen GEGNER durchsetzen statt nur in ihrem bisherigen Gejammer belächelt und vorgeführt zu werden.
Der Apointernetclub sucht (Branchen)politisch AKTIVE ApothekerInnen zwecks Neustrukturierung des Deutschen-Apothekenwesens in bundeshoheitlicher Selbstverwaltung ... d.h. konkreter :
Aufbau einer ALTERNATIVE zur heutigen s.g. Berufsvertretung ABDA (Schaubild) .
Ich selbst biete 35 Jahre Berufserfahrung im Pharma-Privat-GH-Umfeld und Textlite-Apothekendienstleister , seit 2002 branchenpolitisch engagiert, seit 2007, increased use of the web space as a modern communication medium,
Keywords: virtual companies as a media support in thrust of the Selbstverständisses of eg free-pharmacists eV and Gesine + Torre , certainly as seen by the sorts of initiatives of Federation for FREE chambers
.
from DAZ.online of 31.01.2001
one commentator wrote there:
"Where are the consequences?"
I ask: What kind of consequences
should / could be that given the current with pharmaceutical industry and medical profession (in the self-understanding) and DAV matted ABDA be?
for example HSKeller `s credo
" It is the pharmacists can not be expected, the interests of the pharmaceutical industry to affect "
As a freelance corrective in health care according to § 1 ApoG like these gentlemen, especially evident nicht vorwagen, weder mit kammergerichtlichen Instrumentarien noch mit konsequentem unternehmerischen ENTZUG des DAV-Logos gegenüber Ausreissern in ethische Nebelwände.
Welche nachhaltigen Konsequenzen nach INNEN für die derzeitigen "Delegierten", die nach außen als "Verhandler" und "Medienexperten" sich zunächst mal KOMMUNIKATIONS-Kompetenz aneignen müssten aber eben nicht wollen in ihrer teamunfähigen weil bequemen vereinsmeierischen Patronatsdenke ?
Notwendig ist m.E. zunächst ein Wandel von landeshoheitlicher zu bundeshoheitlicher Struktur der Berufsvertretung, unter Einschluss ALLER Verbände (sogar konträrer Richtungen) in ein apothekerliches Bundesparlament aus ausschließlich von 55.000 Apothekern DIREKTGEWÄHLTEN Mandatsträgern statt Listen-Delegierten.
Nebeneffekt : Bürokratie- + Kostenabbau im eigenen A-Polit-Haus auf Landesebenen... in Vorbildfunktion für die "große Politik" , umgesetzt mit der Multiplikatorwirkung der apothekerlichen flächendeckenden FACHeinzelhandelsgeschäfte.
Und die ABDA-Führer sollten jetzt nicht posaunen, die Landesparteipolitiker würden dem abgeneigt sein bzw. zu verhindern wissen.
Letzteres wäre nicht die erste historische Fehleinschätzung der derzeitigen Apotheker-"Führungsriege"
Erst eine wirklich mehrheitsfähige und damit von den Parteipolit-Entscheidern ernstzunehmende Berufsvertretung kann dann ihre ureigensten Berufsbild-Interessen auch gegen GEGNER durchsetzen statt nur in ihrem bisherigen Gejammer belächelt und vorgeführt zu werden.
Der Apointernetclub sucht (Branchen)politisch AKTIVE ApothekerInnen zwecks Neustrukturierung des Deutschen-Apothekenwesens in bundeshoheitlicher Selbstverwaltung ... d.h. konkreter :
Aufbau einer ALTERNATIVE zur heutigen s.g. Berufsvertretung ABDA (Schaubild) .
Ich selbst biete 35 Jahre Berufserfahrung im Pharma-Privat-GH-Umfeld und Textlite-Apothekendienstleister , seit 2002 branchenpolitisch engagiert, seit 2007, increased use of the web space as a modern communication medium,
Keywords: virtual companies as a media support in thrust of the Selbstverständisses of eg free-pharmacists eV and Gesine + Torre , certainly as seen by the sorts of initiatives of Federation for FREE chambers
.
Sunday, January 23, 2011
Blueprints Of A Sand Rail
pharmacist `s frustration management
Pharmacy Survey results:
Large frustration among Germany pharmacists (German-pharmacist-newspaper)
COMMENTS ... COMMENTS ... TESTIMONIALS ...
Daniel Eicke said plaintively: 21/01/2011 18:52
More bureaucracy, less money
,
want more?
lights in the eyes of the customer
Their recommendation was good!
re-discovered a contraindication.
helped the emergency services.
Let us ask ourselves about the meaning
our actions, then the
answer honestly are NOT
we would do it for the money!
Dietmar FRENSEMEYER said about the background: 01/22/2011 09:40
the frustration is still not large enough, the action threshold is far from achieved.
It is not enough, in surveys to highlight frustration and whining.
Germany pharmacist must act now and dismiss their continuous failure without notice.
formulate the new leadership must finally what pharmacists can do just for that company and how they want to get paid for it.
See also free-pharmacists eV Wallpapers :
" fact : In 2004, the ABDA expressly waived a higher premium and the functional discount the wholesale trade of up to 4%" still "einberechnet This was a historic mistake. Even today shows how this rebate is now collected by the policy
fact :.. the ABDA has omitted any form of media work, the real economic condition of the pharmacy is, especially compared to the doctors and the administrative costs of health insurance "
Bernhard said to the A" of colleagues'
01/22/2011 11:38
why dismiss permanent failure, the duration of failure
those
hold the price wars with
discounts to over 40% and the politics pretend
is with us to get much
are not able to entlassbarlagunen
Winfried Meyer told the frustration management.
23/01/2011 10:59
DAV + ABDA until 2013
-page 3 -?
"[...] Because the pharmacies do not have the wholesale would be charged, said the black-yellow coalition finally into the discount drug market Restructuring Act (AMNOG): 2,05 € for 2011 and 2012, and is then negotiated. Then, the pharmacies, however, completely undress and put performance and operating results open. "
( Patrick Hollstein, Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 11:03 clock )
particular 17 eV the lavs (State pharmacists associations / groups) are playing with fire,
when they present their DAV "leadership team" no halt to finally
in their "values" delusional (reasonable) the self-assigned alleged influence on BAK (17 LAKs Landeskamern Kdö.R.) and on political decisions ...
Greetings from Saarbrücken
*** Meyer's VITA ***
Pharmacy Survey results:
Large frustration among Germany pharmacists (German-pharmacist-newspaper)
COMMENTS ... COMMENTS ... TESTIMONIALS ...
Daniel Eicke said plaintively: 21/01/2011 18:52
More bureaucracy, less money
,
want more?
lights in the eyes of the customer
Their recommendation was good!
re-discovered a contraindication.
helped the emergency services.
Let us ask ourselves about the meaning
our actions, then the
answer honestly are NOT
we would do it for the money!
Dietmar FRENSEMEYER said about the background: 01/22/2011 09:40
the frustration is still not large enough, the action threshold is far from achieved.
It is not enough, in surveys to highlight frustration and whining.
Germany pharmacist must act now and dismiss their continuous failure without notice.
formulate the new leadership must finally what pharmacists can do just for that company and how they want to get paid for it.
See also free-pharmacists eV Wallpapers :
" fact : In 2004, the ABDA expressly waived a higher premium and the functional discount the wholesale trade of up to 4%" still "einberechnet This was a historic mistake. Even today shows how this rebate is now collected by the policy
fact :.. the ABDA has omitted any form of media work, the real economic condition of the pharmacy is, especially compared to the doctors and the administrative costs of health insurance "
Bernhard said to the A" of colleagues'
01/22/2011 11:38
why dismiss permanent failure, the duration of failure
those
hold the price wars with
discounts to over 40% and the politics pretend
is with us to get much
are not able to entlassbarlagunen
Winfried Meyer told the frustration management.
23/01/2011 10:59
DAV + ABDA until 2013
-page 3 -?
"[...] Because the pharmacies do not have the wholesale would be charged, said the black-yellow coalition finally into the discount drug market Restructuring Act (AMNOG): 2,05 € for 2011 and 2012, and is then negotiated. Then, the pharmacies, however, completely undress and put performance and operating results open. "
( Patrick Hollstein, Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 11:03 clock )
particular 17 eV the lavs (State pharmacists associations / groups) are playing with fire,
when they present their DAV "leadership team" no halt to finally
in their "values" delusional (reasonable) the self-assigned alleged influence on BAK (17 LAKs Landeskamern Kdö.R.) and on political decisions ...
Greetings from Saarbrücken
*** Meyer's VITA ***
Tuesday, January 4, 2011
Genital Warts Freezing
political LOCAL CONTACT-end ... ff
Preamble:
"There is only one enemy, can destroy us, we own" deja vu
among pharmacists `s ABDA, not only in FDP-Saar-scandal ( FAZ article v. 10.01.2011)
from the" who-knows-who "(WkW) community
MP Oliver Luksic - 29.12.10, 10:41
" On 8 January, will elect a new state chairman of the LPT (state convention), the FDP Saar-Merzig / Saar. I begin because I want a new beginning for the FDP Saar. Substantive discussions held military personnel, wider involvement of the base and above all peace in the party.
details in the Saarbrücken-Zeitung
Winfried Meyer - 01.01.11, 18:44
my health policy recommendation-2011 in the pharmacy sector:
AMNOG <-> opposite concepts in free- pharmacists eV and at Gesine + Torre
Since the health service provider side via zwangsbeitragsverpflchtendem Chamber system in the pharmacy sector in particular is designed sovereignty federalist, I expect you by an "neugeführten" FDP Saar OWN a statement rather than a single ROYAL Appendix submissive behavior for FDP national politics!
with friendly New Year's greetings from Saarbrücken
Winfried Meyer - 01.01.11, 20:29
Addendum:
AMNOG = Pharmaceutical Market Restructuring Act,
been ratified today 01/01/2011
problem involvement in political decisions is the chamber (in) essential!
see pictures via Federal Association of Chambers of free
Winfried Meyer - 02.01.11, 18:04
Dear Mr. Luksic, dear Oliver,
in the Saarbrücken-newspaper interview quoting you: advertise
"[...] but also in the Federal-FDP for Jamaica "The coalition opened up new opportunities," Luksic is convinced..
Can / do you perhaps the views of the Green Biggi Bender and give the left-Dr.Bettina Bunge (BT-Health Committee) of the "new" FDP SAAR at least as a discussion section, blocked without having to be of HOM-FDP City Council Mr Werner pharmacist Trockel, Mr currently Weisweiler Minister, Mr Dr. Richard Weber, and the currently in "my" theme silent Minister Dr. Hartmann? Perhaps
succeed over others WkW ein lebendigerer statt "toter" Dialog als auf abgeordnetenwatch.de oder facebook.de ?
Grüsse vom "Basis"-Bürger aus Saarbrücken "vorort"
Oliver Luksic - 03.01.11, 20:35
"Hallo Herr Meyer,
Gerne können wir alles diskutieren.
Herr Trockel ist meines Erachtens Mitglied, aber nicht Stadtrat. Herr Weber ist kein Mitglied übrigens.
Viele Grüße
OL"
Winfried Meyer - 04.01.11, 18:14
Hallo Herr Luksic,
ich will nicht "alles" diskutieren ! , mir geht`s auch nicht darum, ob die o.g. Herren nun FDP-Mitglied sind oder nicht, oder HOM-Stadtrat sind oder waren.
Übrigens, I myself am a partisan, and hence no FDPler, no SPDler, even if I know Mrs. Elke Ferner person or Carola Reimann, or CDU-hedges, or other above mentioned gentlemen and many others
Maybe you know under the FDP-initiated Health Forum Saar- some party colleagues and FDP-affiliated groups of people.
The fact that Mr Dr.Weber not only Karl Berger CEO and Chamber of Commerce president at the Saar, and recently in terms of products and indirectly-staffed in the pharmacy sector both in business and politics go, you should probably not be a stranger, nor, as Mr. Apotheker Werner Trockel ABDA Vice-President and one of those founding fathers did 50 years ago.
ABDA Organization
If you follow my links from 01/01/2011, for reading my communities-Contacts in 2010 with you, then you may remember that my concern revolves around whether state governments, even in the Saar, could further connect the thought / wanted the state pharmacists to resolve because of blatant abuse of State abandonment of the national pharmacists associations, that is its community-relevant obligations "sold" have bundesebenlich (nationwide) to purely economic / economically partialinteressengelenkte corporate networks. See above ABDA-Organization!
involvement in political decisions, the problem of Appeal (in) is essentially !
see pictures via BV for free chambers
Best regards Winfried Meyer
Winfried Meyer - 5:01:11, 09:05 in wkw FDP group policy for you
@ MP Mr Oliver Luksic and Mr. Saar's economy minister Dr. Hartmann (of local group founder) note:
chambers, listening to the signals!
- Comment by Dr. Christian Rotta - co-editor of the above DAZ + AZ here: Output from AZ already 09/2002
"The wind that blows the national chambers of the professions in Europe contrary, is rough as rough, the. reactions of the EU Commission point to the Luxembourg rulings of the Court, for the lawyers' professional ethics. Remains - medium term - in the German professional ethics of the professions actually rejoices not one stone upon another, like the "Handelsblatt", our central organ of the economic Ordo-liberalism, or is it - in Germany - not eaten as hot as it - was cooked - in the EU Commission?
The German Government, in its opinion in the context of the two decisions of the European Court vehemently argued that the chambers are attributable to the professions of public violence and therefore not per se antitrust and competition law relevant business associations can be. It should be entitled to the appropriate authorities of a Member State to decide in the context of national sovereignty as they wanted to embellish the exercise of their rights. The decision of the national legislature, democratically legitimized institutions to transfer (such as pharmacists) the authority to issue generally binding regulations is, therefore, the principle of "institutional autonomy" covered.
In this generality was followed by the Luxembourg judges the German versions are not. According to the European Court of Justice rather have two control systems to be distinguished: If the legislature of a Member State in the transmission von Satzungsbefugnissen auf eine Kammer selbst Gemeinwohl-Kriterien aufstellt, die bei der Ausübung des freien Berufes zu beachten sind, und er somit die inhaltliche "Letztentscheidungsbefugnis" in seiner Hand behält, bleiben die berufsständischen Regelungen staatliches Recht. Die für Unternehmen und Unternehmensvereinigungen geltenden Bestimmungen des EG-Vertrages kommen dann nicht zur Anwendung. Anders ist es, wenn in den Berufsordnungen solche gemeinwohlorientierten Kriterien und Vorgaben fehlen. Dann gilt - mit allen Konsequenzen - europäisches Kartell- und Wettbewerbsrecht, da die von der zuständigen Kammer erlassenen Standesregeln allein der Berufsvertretung zuzurechnen sind.
Mit anderen Worten: Es obliegt - und dies stellt der Europäische Court explicitly stated - the freedom of Member States to opt for one or the other model. It is possible to do both. In these decisions, the policy is required.
go from here? It will depend on the intelligence and the creative will of the legislature in the Member States asking whether the self-government of the professions in Germany and elsewhere have a future - or else is sacrificed on the altar of raging Brussels market fanatics. "
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Excerpt from "democratic Pharmacists Association eV" association of democratic
Pharmacists Association
"The lack [...] of participation opportunities for non-independent pharmacists in the chambers and in the ABDA it was necessary to build, so the central message of the event. Given the recent amendments to the Statute of the ABDA ranged from nowhere. On the contrary, by the withdrawal of participation opportunities for employees, the statute was even a step backwards. It was necessary to continue to require vigorous new steps toward more democracy in the chamber organizations and in the ABDA. "
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I would ("policy for me" ? happy) when I have at least one virtuelle-Aussage/Statement "to my request of the old and new FDP Saar would receive.
.. coupled with the desire to let the upcoming LPT can successfully lay the foundation for his self-entitled "Policy for You" also to implement, regardless of personal choice outputs ...
Winfried Meyer from Saarbrücken ("suburb")
c. / o. www.apointernetclub.blogspot.com
ps
with so much tears should be at the beginning can still laugh ...
1) AMNOG flowers (DAZ.online)
and
2) A pioneering service (4-minute video)
p.ss. and ff
comment on the future of the FDP Saar new management (as of 10/01/2011)
... and ...
the pharmacist counterpart this:
freedom for whom? (in the comments section there)
Greetings from Saarbrücken
*** Meyer's VITA ***
Preamble:
"There is only one enemy, can destroy us, we own" deja vu
among pharmacists `s ABDA, not only in FDP-Saar-scandal ( FAZ article v. 10.01.2011)
from the" who-knows-who "(WkW) community
MP Oliver Luksic - 29.12.10, 10:41
" On 8 January, will elect a new state chairman of the LPT (state convention), the FDP Saar-Merzig / Saar. I begin because I want a new beginning for the FDP Saar. Substantive discussions held military personnel, wider involvement of the base and above all peace in the party.
details in the Saarbrücken-Zeitung
Winfried Meyer - 01.01.11, 18:44
my health policy recommendation-2011 in the pharmacy sector:
AMNOG <-> opposite concepts in free- pharmacists eV and at Gesine + Torre
Since the health service provider side via zwangsbeitragsverpflchtendem Chamber system in the pharmacy sector in particular is designed sovereignty federalist, I expect you by an "neugeführten" FDP Saar OWN a statement rather than a single ROYAL Appendix submissive behavior for FDP national politics!
with friendly New Year's greetings from Saarbrücken
Winfried Meyer - 01.01.11, 20:29
Addendum:
AMNOG = Pharmaceutical Market Restructuring Act,
been ratified today 01/01/2011
problem involvement in political decisions is the chamber (in) essential!
see pictures via Federal Association of Chambers of free
Winfried Meyer - 02.01.11, 18:04
Dear Mr. Luksic, dear Oliver,
in the Saarbrücken-newspaper interview quoting you: advertise
"[...] but also in the Federal-FDP for Jamaica "The coalition opened up new opportunities," Luksic is convinced..
Can / do you perhaps the views of the Green Biggi Bender and give the left-Dr.Bettina Bunge (BT-Health Committee) of the "new" FDP SAAR at least as a discussion section, blocked without having to be of HOM-FDP City Council Mr Werner pharmacist Trockel, Mr currently Weisweiler Minister, Mr Dr. Richard Weber, and the currently in "my" theme silent Minister Dr. Hartmann? Perhaps
succeed over others WkW ein lebendigerer statt "toter" Dialog als auf abgeordnetenwatch.de oder facebook.de ?
Grüsse vom "Basis"-Bürger aus Saarbrücken "vorort"
Oliver Luksic - 03.01.11, 20:35
"Hallo Herr Meyer,
Gerne können wir alles diskutieren.
Herr Trockel ist meines Erachtens Mitglied, aber nicht Stadtrat. Herr Weber ist kein Mitglied übrigens.
Viele Grüße
OL"
Winfried Meyer - 04.01.11, 18:14
Hallo Herr Luksic,
ich will nicht "alles" diskutieren ! , mir geht`s auch nicht darum, ob die o.g. Herren nun FDP-Mitglied sind oder nicht, oder HOM-Stadtrat sind oder waren.
Übrigens, I myself am a partisan, and hence no FDPler, no SPDler, even if I know Mrs. Elke Ferner person or Carola Reimann, or CDU-hedges, or other above mentioned gentlemen and many others
Maybe you know under the FDP-initiated Health Forum Saar- some party colleagues and FDP-affiliated groups of people.
The fact that Mr Dr.Weber not only Karl Berger CEO and Chamber of Commerce president at the Saar, and recently in terms of products and indirectly-staffed in the pharmacy sector both in business and politics go, you should probably not be a stranger, nor, as Mr. Apotheker Werner Trockel ABDA Vice-President and one of those founding fathers did 50 years ago.
ABDA Organization
If you follow my links from 01/01/2011, for reading my communities-Contacts in 2010 with you, then you may remember that my concern revolves around whether state governments, even in the Saar, could further connect the thought / wanted the state pharmacists to resolve because of blatant abuse of State abandonment of the national pharmacists associations, that is its community-relevant obligations "sold" have bundesebenlich (nationwide) to purely economic / economically partialinteressengelenkte corporate networks. See above ABDA-Organization!
involvement in political decisions, the problem of Appeal (in) is essentially !
see pictures via BV for free chambers
Best regards Winfried Meyer
Winfried Meyer - 5:01:11, 09:05 in wkw FDP group policy for you
@ MP Mr Oliver Luksic and Mr. Saar's economy minister Dr. Hartmann (of local group founder) note:
chambers, listening to the signals!
- Comment by Dr. Christian Rotta - co-editor of the above DAZ + AZ here: Output from AZ already 09/2002
"The wind that blows the national chambers of the professions in Europe contrary, is rough as rough, the. reactions of the EU Commission point to the Luxembourg rulings of the Court, for the lawyers' professional ethics. Remains - medium term - in the German professional ethics of the professions actually rejoices not one stone upon another, like the "Handelsblatt", our central organ of the economic Ordo-liberalism, or is it - in Germany - not eaten as hot as it - was cooked - in the EU Commission?
The German Government, in its opinion in the context of the two decisions of the European Court vehemently argued that the chambers are attributable to the professions of public violence and therefore not per se antitrust and competition law relevant business associations can be. It should be entitled to the appropriate authorities of a Member State to decide in the context of national sovereignty as they wanted to embellish the exercise of their rights. The decision of the national legislature, democratically legitimized institutions to transfer (such as pharmacists) the authority to issue generally binding regulations is, therefore, the principle of "institutional autonomy" covered.
In this generality was followed by the Luxembourg judges the German versions are not. According to the European Court of Justice rather have two control systems to be distinguished: If the legislature of a Member State in the transmission von Satzungsbefugnissen auf eine Kammer selbst Gemeinwohl-Kriterien aufstellt, die bei der Ausübung des freien Berufes zu beachten sind, und er somit die inhaltliche "Letztentscheidungsbefugnis" in seiner Hand behält, bleiben die berufsständischen Regelungen staatliches Recht. Die für Unternehmen und Unternehmensvereinigungen geltenden Bestimmungen des EG-Vertrages kommen dann nicht zur Anwendung. Anders ist es, wenn in den Berufsordnungen solche gemeinwohlorientierten Kriterien und Vorgaben fehlen. Dann gilt - mit allen Konsequenzen - europäisches Kartell- und Wettbewerbsrecht, da die von der zuständigen Kammer erlassenen Standesregeln allein der Berufsvertretung zuzurechnen sind.
Mit anderen Worten: Es obliegt - und dies stellt der Europäische Court explicitly stated - the freedom of Member States to opt for one or the other model. It is possible to do both. In these decisions, the policy is required.
go from here? It will depend on the intelligence and the creative will of the legislature in the Member States asking whether the self-government of the professions in Germany and elsewhere have a future - or else is sacrificed on the altar of raging Brussels market fanatics. "
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Excerpt from "democratic Pharmacists Association eV" association of democratic
Pharmacists Association
"The lack [...] of participation opportunities for non-independent pharmacists in the chambers and in the ABDA it was necessary to build, so the central message of the event. Given the recent amendments to the Statute of the ABDA ranged from nowhere. On the contrary, by the withdrawal of participation opportunities for employees, the statute was even a step backwards. It was necessary to continue to require vigorous new steps toward more democracy in the chamber organizations and in the ABDA. "
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I would ("policy for me" ? happy) when I have at least one virtuelle-Aussage/Statement "to my request of the old and new FDP Saar would receive.
.. coupled with the desire to let the upcoming LPT can successfully lay the foundation for his self-entitled "Policy for You" also to implement, regardless of personal choice outputs ...
Winfried Meyer from Saarbrücken ("suburb")
c. / o. www.apointernetclub.blogspot.com
ps
with so much tears should be at the beginning can still laugh ...
1) AMNOG flowers (DAZ.online)
and
2) A pioneering service (4-minute video)
p.ss. and ff
comment on the future of the FDP Saar new management (as of 10/01/2011)
... and ...
the pharmacist counterpart this:
freedom for whom? (in the comments section there)
Greetings from Saarbrücken
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